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Jeff Jarvis: I’m Jeff Jarvis, blogger at BuzzMachine.com, here
for Beat TV and I’m with Mark Whitaker who’s the new head of Ventures Digital
Future, the Fate of Journalism at Washington Post Newsweek Interactive. So how are you enjoying the new gig?
Mark Whitaker: It’s great. It’s been a lot of fun.
Jeff Jarvis: Are you in your new role mainly going to start or
buy innovation?
Mark Whitaker: We’re looking at both. We think we can generate some things
internally with our existing talent by partnering on the content side with
other people. But, you know, a lot of
people coming to us with acquisition possibilities and we’re looking at all of
it.
Jeff Jarvis: We have a problem in this industry, in the
newspaper and news industry of a lack of innovation, I’d say. That’s why Martin Nisenholtz started a lab at
the New York Times Company. I think it’s
a woeful picture. Can we innovate in the
news business? Is it possible? If you’re gonna score our innovation as an
industry, at 100 percent would be a proper amount, where are we now as an
industry?
Mark Whitaker: Well, I think – I think you have to make a
couple of bets and I think one of the interesting things about what the Post is
doing in asking me to do this job is, in a way, it’s a kind of counter-hedge
against the old media strategy of just investing in your existing properties,
looking at new properties, new opportunities, new ways of doing things. As you know, the Washington Post bought Slate
a couple of years ago. We’ve learned a
lot from them and their experience as being an all online publication. We just hired Rob Curley who is probably, you
know, the most interesting web developer in the world of local –
Jeff Jarvis: And Adrian Holovaty too.
Mark Whitaker: And Adrian Holovaty who is probably, you know,
the master right now at interactive relational databases and so forth. So we have – we’re bringing a lot of people
in-house who, I think, have some interesting ideas. And then, of course, the cross-pollination
and synergy between us batting around ideas is also very exciting.
Jeff Jarvis: Washington Post Online has been really a leader and you’ve done wonderful things, WPNI as
a group. What do you think the best
frontiers are now going forward. Don’t
talk about a few of the things you’ve already done. What are the best frontiers that you see for
news online in your work?
Mark Whitaker: Well, one of the things, which I know that you
talk about very publicly, is I think there’s a real opportunity in what we call
hyper-local content. And we’re obviously
focused on being the best at that in the Washington area and I think we’re gonna learn some lessons there that might be applicable
elsewhere. I think that, you know, I
think online – the web is all about passions. And I think you have to figure out what people’s passions are and
connect with them there and then sort of build out from there. So we’re looking in terms of new
opportunities at content, vertical niches and building websites around those
and also around very specific audience where, I think, who are looking for
meeting places to come together online.
Jeff Jarvis: A lot of folks have tried local and have failed at
various – I’ve made experiments that didn’t work when I was at Advance, back
fence – over your back fences is going through some changes right now. There have been some others. What do you think the secret sauce is, if
you’re willing to say, to what’s gonna make hyper-local start to click?
Mark Whitaker: Well, I think Curley, you know, has been very
successfully at it and he’s teaching us a lot of lessons. I think a big part of it is consumer
generated content and allowing that in and allowing that in an interesting way,
that that doesn’t get totally out of control, but makes, you know, the users
and the community feel like they have a stake. I think mobile actually is a big part of it. And increasingly will be so as people get,
you know, their information and their alerts and so forth, you know, through
their cell phones and text messaging and so forth. You know, I think they’re are passion points
locally around sports, around entertainment, around local politics. I think, you know, those are the things you
need to focus on.
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Mark Whitaker, Newsweek Interactive, Jeff Jarvis